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| Lord Clarke wrote: | | Wandering Nick wrote: | | yea reading is too much work |
Nick, why do I NOT find it hard to believe that you mean that comment?
If you do, try harder, because no tv show, or movie, or website is better than a good book. Thats what I am trying to instill into my children, because its true. While people sometimes get wrapped up in fictional tv shows, such as back when I was a child everybody needed to know who shot JR, or had to watch the Luke and Laura wedding, and later, (maybe you remember these) would Ross and Rachel finally get together, and how would Seinfeld end, but truthfully, these memories fade away to oblivion; someday until only the truly demented care. But a good book lives forever. Shakespeare is still read today because he is still great, and in many stories, current. Moby Dick, Robin Hood, and 3 Musketeers are books that live on forever, and have had countless movies modeled after them because the original stories are tremendous. Why is it that every 5 years there is a new "Scrooge" or "Christmas Carol" rendition being filmed (currently, there are over 75 different film versions)? Perhaps because the book was tremendous. But a movie about a book is never as in depth as the actual book. Read any Tom Clancy novel (the Jack Ryan series, not the other crap) and then the movie (Hunt for Red October is a perfect one)....and tell me which is more engrossing. TV shows can't envelop you like a book. You are not IN the story in a tv show, but in a book that grabs you, you are there side by side with the hero seeing how it ends. JK Rowling and Harry Potter will live on forever, long after the names of Tom Hanks and John Wayne and Meg Ryan and Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt are forgotten. But kids will probably be reading Potter in school in 5 centuries, just as we are still reading Shakespeare 391 years after his death, and still counting.
I may be a smartass in many ways Nick, but on this subject, I am not wrong. Books are the greatest form of entertainment (not involving other people) in the world. Try one Nick. You might improve yourself. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| queen wrote: | | Lord Clarke wrote: | | Wandering Nick wrote: | | yea reading is too much work |
Nick, why do I NOT find it hard to believe that you mean that comment?
If you do, try harder, because no tv show, or movie, or website is better than a good book. Thats what I am trying to instill into my children, because its true. While people sometimes get wrapped up in fictional tv shows, such as back when I was a child everybody needed to know who shot JR, or had to watch the Luke and Laura wedding, and later, (maybe you remember these) would Ross and Rachel finally get together, and how would Seinfeld end, but truthfully, these memories fade away to oblivion; someday until only the truly demented care. But a good book lives forever. Shakespeare is still read today because he is still great, and in many stories, current. Moby Dick, Robin Hood, and 3 Musketeers are books that live on forever, and have had countless movies modeled after them because the original stories are tremendous. Why is it that every 5 years there is a new "Scrooge" or "Christmas Carol" rendition being filmed (currently, there are over 75 different film versions)? Perhaps because the book was tremendous. But a movie about a book is never as in depth as the actual book. Read any Tom Clancy novel (the Jack Ryan series, not the other crap) and then the movie (Hunt for Red October is a perfect one)....and tell me which is more engrossing. TV shows can't envelop you like a book. You are not IN the story in a tv show, but in a book that grabs you, you are there side by side with the hero seeing how it ends. JK Rowling and Harry Potter will live on forever, long after the names of Tom Hanks and John Wayne and Meg Ryan and Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt are forgotten. But kids will probably be reading Potter in school in 5 centuries, just as we are still reading Shakespeare 391 years after his death, and still counting.
I may be a smartass in many ways Nick, but on this subject, I am not wrong. Books are the greatest form of entertainment (not involving other people) in the world. Try one Nick. You might improve yourself. |
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i just do not enjoy reading...and i know none of those names you mentioned except for the potter one an the carol...oh and shakesspeare...but ikinda jst read part then sskipped to the bottom!oh and uhh who shot JR?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| Wandering Nick wrote: | | queen wrote: | | Lord Clarke wrote: | | Wandering Nick wrote: | | yea reading is too much work |
Nick, why do I NOT find it hard to believe that you mean that comment?
If you do, try harder, because no tv show, or movie, or website is better than a good book. Thats what I am trying to instill into my children, because its true. While people sometimes get wrapped up in fictional tv shows, such as back when I was a child everybody needed to know who shot JR, or had to watch the Luke and Laura wedding, and later, (maybe you remember these) would Ross and Rachel finally get together, and how would Seinfeld end, but truthfully, these memories fade away to oblivion; someday until only the truly demented care. But a good book lives forever. Shakespeare is still read today because he is still great, and in many stories, current. Moby Dick, Robin Hood, and 3 Musketeers are books that live on forever, and have had countless movies modeled after them because the original stories are tremendous. Why is it that every 5 years there is a new "Scrooge" or "Christmas Carol" rendition being filmed (currently, there are over 75 different film versions)? Perhaps because the book was tremendous. But a movie about a book is never as in depth as the actual book. Read any Tom Clancy novel (the Jack Ryan series, not the other crap) and then the movie (Hunt for Red October is a perfect one)....and tell me which is more engrossing. TV shows can't envelop you like a book. You are not IN the story in a tv show, but in a book that grabs you, you are there side by side with the hero seeing how it ends. JK Rowling and Harry Potter will live on forever, long after the names of Tom Hanks and John Wayne and Meg Ryan and Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt are forgotten. But kids will probably be reading Potter in school in 5 centuries, just as we are still reading Shakespeare 391 years after his death, and still counting.
I may be a smartass in many ways Nick, but on this subject, I am not wrong. Books are the greatest form of entertainment (not involving other people) in the world. Try one Nick. You might improve yourself. |
HEAR, HEAR!!!!!!!!
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i just do not enjoy reading...and i know none of those names you mentioned except for the potter one an the carol...oh and shakesspeare...but ikinda jst read part then sskipped to the bottom!oh and uhh who shot JR? |
How can you not like reading?
Tell you what.....give me a list of things that you are interested in, and I will find you a book that you will like.....I guarantee it. If you don't like reading it just means you have not been reading the right book.
Plus, studies show, and they cannot explain the why, just the result, that the more you read the less likely you are to get Alzheimer's Disease.
Plus, other studies show that the more you read the less likely you are to be a dummy.
Seriously, give me a list of things you are interested in, not porn, and I will find something. I promise. All you have to do is give it a chance.
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| Wandering Nick wrote: | | queen wrote: | | Lord Clarke wrote: | | Wandering Nick wrote: | | yea reading is too much work |
Nick, why do I NOT find it hard to believe that you mean that comment?
If you do, try harder, because no tv show, or movie, or website is better than a good book. Thats what I am trying to instill into my children, because its true. While people sometimes get wrapped up in fictional tv shows, such as back when I was a child everybody needed to know who shot JR, or had to watch the Luke and Laura wedding, and later, (maybe you remember these) would Ross and Rachel finally get together, and how would Seinfeld end, but truthfully, these memories fade away to oblivion; someday until only the truly demented care. But a good book lives forever. Shakespeare is still read today because he is still great, and in many stories, current. Moby Dick, Robin Hood, and 3 Musketeers are books that live on forever, and have had countless movies modeled after them because the original stories are tremendous. Why is it that every 5 years there is a new "Scrooge" or "Christmas Carol" rendition being filmed (currently, there are over 75 different film versions)? Perhaps because the book was tremendous. But a movie about a book is never as in depth as the actual book. Read any Tom Clancy novel (the Jack Ryan series, not the other crap) and then the movie (Hunt for Red October is a perfect one)....and tell me which is more engrossing. TV shows can't envelop you like a book. You are not IN the story in a tv show, but in a book that grabs you, you are there side by side with the hero seeing how it ends. JK Rowling and Harry Potter will live on forever, long after the names of Tom Hanks and John Wayne and Meg Ryan and Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt are forgotten. But kids will probably be reading Potter in school in 5 centuries, just as we are still reading Shakespeare 391 years after his death, and still counting.
I may be a smartass in many ways Nick, but on this subject, I am not wrong. Books are the greatest form of entertainment (not involving other people) in the world. Try one Nick. You might improve yourself. |
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:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: |
i just do not enjoy reading...and i know none of those names you mentioned except for the potter one an the carol...oh and shakesspeare...but ikinda jst read part then sskipped to the bottom!oh and uhh who shot JR? |
What names don't you know??? Tom Hanks? John Wayne? Meg Ryan? Tom Clancy?
Do you live under a rock? John Wayne is considered one of the greatest actors in Cowboy movies and WWII movies and other "American" movies. Tom Hanks is possibly the best actor in contemporary times, considered by some as the modern day Jimmy Stewart. Meg Ryan is a blonde actress who has been a star for about 2 decades now and for awhile was the biggest star actress in Hollywood (see "You've Got Mail" and "Sleepless in Seattle", both with Hanks, and see "When Harry Met Sally" with Billy Crystal).....Tom Clancy has been a best selling author for the past quarter century, mostly off of his Jack Ryan novels, which centered around plots around the world against American interests...Jack Ryan was the central character in most of the novels, he was a CIA Analyst.....4 of the novels have been made into movies.....Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford and Ben Affleck have played Jack Ryan.....none of the movies were remotely as exciting as the books. "A Christmas Carol" or "Scrooge" (same thing) is possibly the best known Xmas story ever.....written by Charles Dickens, I believe back in 1843. If you have not read Dickens then you have not lived. Possibly the greatest author ever. Although I have a lot listed as the greatest (Jack London, for the Call of the Wild, Stephen Donaldson, Douglas Adams, etc.)
You have to try more books. No way anybody can "not like" reading. Seriously, give me a list of interests and I will find something that you will enjoy. We have to get you out from under that rock.
Kirsten Shepard, JR's sister-in-law/former mistress, shot JR in a fit of anger.
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If you like Clancy, you'll like Vince Flynn as well. However, Clancy is likely a better writer technically speaking.
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| loangod wrote: | | If you like Clancy, you'll like Vince Flynn as well. However, Clancy is likely a better writer technically speaking. |
Thanks, I will have to check out Vince Flynn.
Clancy has been disappointing in recent years as he has really just rented out his name to other authors....he comes up with a story line and another author writes it, they put Clancy's name on the cover, with the other guy, and Clancy makes a large percentage for not actually writing it. I don't think he has written more than 3 or 4 novels in the last decade. I know that there has only been 2 in the last 5. A few non-fiction, but I am not interested in that.....if it were historic non-fiction, sure, but not current day stuff.
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i know clancy....screw his stuff....
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or lets just say ive heard of them but i dont know or care for that matter who they are.....besides im only 13...again screw them
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| Wandering Nick wrote: | | or lets just say ive heard of them but i dont know or care for that matter who they are.....besides im only 13...again screw them |
13 is no excuse for being stupid.
Screw Clancy? Why? What did he ever do to you? Does talking like that make you cool? If you think it does, ask your peers here....they will probably say it makes you look like a dope.
Lets see, 13? Interested in nature or dogs? A favorite of mine when I was a kid, probably read it when I was abou 9, and again later (I was always told I was reading books for kids older than me, so this might be ripe for your age) was Jack London's "Call of the Wild".
If you don't like that, there is a series of books that should be, given your interest in fantasy games like your Guild Wars, very interesting to you....Lloyd Alexander's Chronicles of Prydain, which I probably read at about your age, and again when I was about 30 (just wanted to relive my childhood I guess). The first book is called "The Book of Three". Think Lord of the Rings type of genre, but for adolescents. Its a 5 book set, easy read. They were fantastci books. Try them out, I promise you that you won't be saying "screw them".....they were fantastic books....Disney made a cartoon movie out of one of them.....totally butchered it...."The Black Cauldron". Seriously, if you like these fantasy games you will enjoy these.
I hate to lecture you Nick, but reading is good for your health and your education. Study after study shows that an active mind, one that reads, is good for mental health as well as (for unknown reasons) stems off alzheimer's and dementia and senility. And these studies show that it starts at a young age. They did studies of nuns, who are as good of a static group for studying as you will ever find in the human population, and studied their reading habits and writing habits from their high school days on, and they find that nuns that read a lot and were very detail oriented in their writing at a young age (mid 20s) were about 75% less likely to get alzheimer's. Thats an amazing statistic. Now the only thing about the study that they could not tell is are they reading less at a younger age because the alzheimers is ALREADY affecting them, or are they getting alzheimer's because they don't read enough and their mind is lazy and out of shape, and like all things that are let to sit around and get out of shape, it breaks down. I tend to believe, with no scientific proof of course, that its the latter. Only because if you have ever seen an old person, once they slow down and act old, they become old. For instance, there is a huge percentage of people that die within the first year of retirement, because they suddenly think they are old, or act old, they just die.
Anyway, I am starting to prattle on, but if it is the latter, then start reading at least to help you with your old age.....it starts now! :D
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ugh look.....im not saying im stupid im not going to read whatever you just posted mainly because its late i get A's and B's in ALL of my classes im not worried about getting a mental disease right now and i want more coke
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| Wandering Nick wrote: | | or lets just say ive heard of them but i dont know or care for that matter who they are.....besides im only 13...again screw them |
hate to say it Nick...but you are 13, talking like you are....much younger.
"I'm only 13 ......screw them?"
That line shows SOOO much intelligence......
And if Clancy isn't your cup of tea......."screw him" too????
Grow up . At the very least...get a new line.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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must everyone have to pester me about this?
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and apparently you ppl have lost one of your definitions of screwed.....it can mean many things but it also means FORGET IT
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| Wandering Nick wrote: | | must everyone have to pester me about this? |
Not trying to pester you Nick, and I am sorry if it came that way. Screw him means 1 thing.....and it is not what you posted.....and it did sound like an 8 year old trying to be older.....
I was just hoping you might try to look at reading and give it another shot. There are soooooo many reasons to do so. I stopped reading when I was in high school, for the usual reasons......girls, beer and girls. Started reading again in college, and found that its the best entertainment in the world (that does not involve your kids or your wife).
Hopefully some day you will give it a shot and realize it. If you do, and need help finding a book, both Queen and I can help....between the 2 of us, I think we have read several hundred books.
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